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Apologists argue that because Jesus was willing to die for what he believed it proves that he believed in what he had said. However, assuming the Gospels are true, Jesus was executed as a criminal. The crimes described in the Gospels consist of vandalism ({{Bible|Mark 11:15}}), theft ({{Bible|Mark 11:15}}, {{Bible|Matthew 21:12}}, {{Bible|John 2:15}}), battery with a weapon ({{Bible|John 2:15}}), impeding traffic ({{Bible|Mark 11:16}}) and making terrorist threats ({{Bible|John 2:19}}), as well as assault, disturbing the peace and impeding commerce. Most of these were capital crimes, and he was arrested, prosecuted and sentenced to death for another-blasphemy (by supposedly claiming to be God). It is often believed that Jesus knew his actions would result in his death, so that despite his execution being legally justified it has no bearing on whether is was martyrdom. However, if he died for his beliefs, then those beliefs for which he died consist of not changing money or selling animals inside of the Temple. In addition, he was not killed for his beliefs, but as a threat to Jewish authority ({{Bible|Mark 11:18}}). | Apologists argue that because Jesus was willing to die for what he believed it proves that he believed in what he had said. However, assuming the Gospels are true, Jesus was executed as a criminal. The crimes described in the Gospels consist of vandalism ({{Bible|Mark 11:15}}), theft ({{Bible|Mark 11:15}}, {{Bible|Matthew 21:12}}, {{Bible|John 2:15}}), battery with a weapon ({{Bible|John 2:15}}), impeding traffic ({{Bible|Mark 11:16}}) and making terrorist threats ({{Bible|John 2:19}}), as well as assault, disturbing the peace and impeding commerce. Most of these were capital crimes, and he was arrested, prosecuted and sentenced to death for another-blasphemy (by supposedly claiming to be God). It is often believed that Jesus knew his actions would result in his death, so that despite his execution being legally justified it has no bearing on whether is was martyrdom. However, if he died for his beliefs, then those beliefs for which he died consist of not changing money or selling animals inside of the Temple. In addition, he was not killed for his beliefs, but as a threat to Jewish authority ({{Bible|Mark 11:18}}). | ||
===Being willing to die | ===Being willing to die dues not authenticate Jesus=== | ||
Their willingness to die shows that early Christians believed firmly in their religious ideal, not that they believed [[Jesus]] was a real person. The religious ideal could easily have been considered a worthy cause, whether or not its founder was invented. | Their willingness to die shows that early Christians believed firmly in their religious ideal, not that they believed [[Jesus]] was a real person. The religious ideal could easily have been considered a worthy cause, whether or not its founder was invented. |